| History of Doubt: My Story - Leaving Jehovah’s Witnesses |
| Written by Awakened At Gilead |
| Monday, 06 April 2009 11:09 |
![]() Sunday, March 29, 2009 marked an important anniversary in my life. On March 29th, a year ago, I was sitting at the famous Jersey City Assembly Hall, watching the talks as they were presented in American Sign Language. I was feeling out of place during the assembly day for the first time in my life, having been raised as a JW.
During the lunch intermission, I felt as if I no longer had anything in common with the people around me anymore. I was in college at the time, in my last semester getting my bachelors, and what I learned fascinated me. Yet no one around seemed a bit interested in my schooling, as it had no bearing on "spiritual things". Finally, during the last talk, I paid close attention to what the speaker, a Bethel Representative, signed. I remember 2 key points from his talk, summing up the lessons of the day: 1. Regardless of your personal circumstances, you must spend as much time in the all-important preaching work. As I listened to that, something clicked inside of me. What about people who can't spend that much time in this "all-important" work? And why does this "all-important" work seem so futile, with such meager results. In our ASL congregation, we had 36 pioneers. Yet in the year since our congregation was formed, meeting attendance was level, hardly any interested people came to the meetings, and definitely no-one got baptized. I thought to myself, "all this work for nothing!", yet we must continue "as much time as possible"??? For the first time in my life, it seemed like a mindless statement. My thoughts returned to the brother giving the talk. He was mentioning a second important point, which I cannot forget, as it made me have a "Matrix" moment: 2. 'Brothers, we know the organization is criticized by Satan's system of things. We are not surprised by this. But, we know that this organization has Jehovah's backing. So, regardless of what anybody says about Jehovah's organization, WE MUST SUPPORT IT!' At this point, my college trained critical thinking mind kicked in. "What if", I thought, almost out loud, "the organization is wrong after all? What if those who criticize it have valid criticism? Why does the organization mention the criticism so much if they have the truth?" At that, it felt as if scales fell from my eyes. A few months later when I saw the movie "The Matrix", I felt exactly as Neo felt when he opened his eyes and he was in a matrix, full of dulled, hypnotized, drone humans. I looked around at everyone that was in attendance, and it seemed as if they were all enjoying the program. But I was not. I resolved at that moment never step foot in a Kingdom Hall ever again. I felt bewildered, confused, even terrified. The religion that I had been raised with, spent 16 years of my life in full time service with, including at Bethel, as a Special Pioneer, and even at Gilead and in Missionary service. Yet this was not the beginning of my doubts about Jehovah's Witnesses, rather it was a culmination of years of wondering about the "truth". As a child, somewhat persecuted, bullied, or ridiculed at school for my faith, I needed confirmation that what I believed was really true. I was a frequent visitor to the library, so I sought out books about Jehovah's Witnesses. I was perhaps 10 years old and I found Marley Cole's 2 books documenting the history and success of Jehovah's Witnesses. Here was the confirmation I needed! Jehovah's Witnesses were a normal religion after all, since an independent author such as Cole lavished praise on the Witnesses and their stand. (It wasn't until I left the Jehovah's Witnesses that I learned that Cole was a Jehovah's Witness himself, so this was a publicity stunt by the WT to establish credibility. Well, with me, the ruse worked.) I grew up with a keen appreciation for Bible prophecy. As a teen, I remember getting out the old books explaining Revelation (Then is Finished the Mystery of God and Babylon the Great has Fallen) and reading the books in my spare time. I swallowed every word and believed it wholeheartedly. However, when I began to study Daniel, I felt twinges of doubt for the first time. Daniel mentions an enigmatic period of 2300 days. The Society claimed that this period was fulfilled from 1938 to 1944, with the publication of certain Watchtower magazines. While I accepted everything that the Society said as truth, I drew the line here. It made no sense, even to my childish mind, that the 2300 days that Daniel was prophesying, were fulfilled in 2 obscure issues of the Watchtower magazine in the late 1930s. This seemed completely arbitrary, yet I knew that Jehovah was providing new light to his organization, so I figured that maybe this prophecy has not yet been fulfilled, and perhaps Jehovah will clear this up eventually. At the age of 14 I was baptized, fully believing that I was serving God Jehovah. I began to aux pioneer shortly thereafter, and loved the truth. Shortly before beginning my senior year at high school, at the age of 17, I became a regular pioneer. A year later I attended pioneer school where I really enjoyed the in depth Bible study and the training in the ministry. One point stuck in my mind, though. We were discussing the concept of context and Bible interpretation. Psalms 37:29 was mentioned as a scripture that we used frequently, yet it had a different contextual application. The instructor pointed out that, according to the context, the verse merely indicates the psalmist’s belief that righteous people will always live on the promised land, not that a particular group of people would live on the earth forever. The latter, he explained, was the extended application, which we could use. But we should remember the contextual application when we explain the extended application. I filed that thought away along with my feelings about the 2300 days and kept on pursuing "spiritual goals". These goals eventually took me to Bethel, where I spent almost 3 years. Later, I served in Ecuador as a need greater, and was appointed as a Special Pioneer, and served in congregations where I was the only MS or elder. During the mid-90's, when all the new understandings about the generation, sheep and goats, and celestial phenomena were coming out, I was conducting the Watchtower study in my little congregation of 16 publishers. While I felt that some of these changes were a bit odd, I felt that God was behind it all, thus he was revealing these truths to the congregation in his due time. One assignment I had to do on the service meeting was to explain 1914 and the 7 times. I found that I could explain it easily, as I knew all the proof texts and could do the calculations, but as I would do the mental leaps necessary to defend this teaching, I found myself uneasy. "Why isn't this prophecy clear in Daniel?", I wondered. "Why do we need to infer that Nebuchadnezzar reflects something greater?" "Are we making the right inference?" "Why do we go from 360 day lunisolar years to make the 2520 year calculation, and then switch to 365 day solar years to arrive at a conclusion?" Of course, I put these doubts out of my mind and filed them along with my other misapprehensions, confident that Jehovah would clear things up in time. After all, this is what the WT said to do if we had doubts: 'keep busy and wait on Jehovah'. I followed the instructions exactly. I also had some questions about the governing body and the FDS. From my earlier service in Bethel, and having been raised by someone claiming to be of the anointed, I knew that the idea that the entire body of anointed Christians around the globe did not prepare the spiritual food. I knew that the GB did not know who my step-father was, and probably did not know who other anointed were outside of Bethel. Once, while I was in Bethel, it was announced that there were only 35 anointed persons in the whole Bethel family including brothers and sisters (around 1991). The end must be close, I was sure, since there were so few anointed ones at Bethel, and the GB was so old, once they would die, they had hardly anyone at Bethel who could replace them. Would they contact my step-dad one day, since he was anointed and much younger? I couldn't imagine him being a spiritual leader of the organization, especially with his hot temper that seemed so unchristlike. At any rate, I knew that the GB was running the show. It was definitely not the whole "anointed remnant". Yet each time I would conduct a Bible study and get to the chapter about the GB and the FDS, I had to teach something I knew to be wrong: that the FDS refers to the entire body of anointed Christians on the earth and that they are dispensing spiritual food to us. I knew that was not true, yet, obediently, I continued to teach it, confident that Jehovah would clear things up in due time. However, my biggest doubt to date happened in the year 2000. The Society published an article indicating 6 lines of evidence that we were in the end. I really did not find the lines of evidence convincing, and that itself bothered me. But the last piece of evidence was easily tested: the end is near because the number of anointed ones is decreasing. I pulled out the yearbooks from the past few years. The most recent one showed an increase, not a decrease. I was shocked! I had caught the society in a lie, yet no one seemed to notice. Again, I placed this thought in the back of my mind and kept busy in Jehovah's service. As time wore on, perhaps because of our theocratic history, when my wife and I applied to Gilead, we were accepted rather quickly. Gilead seemed to give preference to those who had experience serving in a foreign land, so we made it! I thought that this was the opportunity to clear up all my doubts and see Jehovah's guiding hand. The society assigned us to read the whole Bible before we arrived at Gilead only 3 months away, which meant reading about 17 chapters a day and little time to read anything else, including Watchtower publications. While this was a lot, for the first time in my life I was just reading the Bible without any WT interpretation. I got a different feel for the Bible, although I couldn't put my finger on anything particular, though, until I got to the book of Revelation, the week I arrived at Gilead. Reading Revelation I realized that there could be many interpretations of the book, and perhaps the Society's interpretation of some key texts (such as Rev 1:10) was flawed. Shudder the thought! Here I was in Gilead, wondering if the Society was correct in its interpretations! As Gilead began, the doubts in that corner of my mind that I had suppressed all those years started to assert themselves. I had supposed that Gilead would be a huge relief, since the more in-depth study of the Bible would bolster my faith. However, I found that Gilead had the opposite effect, since the in-depth study showed that some beliefs did not really stand up to scrutiny at all. As we went through theocratic history, I began to question whether Russell was really guided by God after all. The old literature - which we had free access to in the Gilead library - seemed so alien and unlike the modern JW literature, so that it seemed a stretch of the truth to call it "the truth" since "current truth" did not resemble Russell’s truth at all. Much of Gilead is spent discussing the Bible verse by verse, chapter by chapter - but in an unusual way. I would have expected that in Gilead we would read through the Bible and extract the practical lessons that would assist us in missionary life. There were, of course, a few lessons which used this method. However, the majority of the classes focused on prophetic parallels. It turned out that every event in the Hebrew Scriptures was just a foreshadowing of the modern day history of the Watchtower organization. Job's comforters? False religionists attacking the anointed. The 10 plagues? This occurred to show how the work that Jehovah's people did since 1914 caused plagues to occur ion modern day Egypt (the world) in a spiritual sense. Noah and his unnamed wife? Jesus and the anointed remnant. Samson? The anointed remnant. Elijah? The anointed in the time of Russell / Rutherford. Elisha? The anointed in the time of Knorr since 1942. Isaiah? The anointed. Jeremiah? The anointed. Daniel? The anointed. Behemoth? God's organization. Leviathan? Satan's evil organization. Israelites leaving Egypt? The anointed. Vast mixed company? The great crowd. Get the picture? Everything positive in the Bible was said to be a picture of the anointed since 1919. Everything negative was a picture of some aspect of Satan's organization, especially false religion. Gilead transformed the way I looked at the Bible - nothing that was written could be understood unless it was representing something in the WT organization. It seemed too much to be true, it was so much overkill that every single event in the Bible had its fulfillment since 1919, that it ceased to be believable. I realized that I could cite by rote all the scriptures necessary to prove any of these points. I could cite the chain of scriptures needed to prove 1914, paradise earth, the idea of 2 hopes, the great crowd, but each of these beliefs became less believable as I progressed in Gilead, and even the Bible itself seemed to have been devalued by their over-analysis. Some further topics in Gilead caused me to have further doubts. Brother Carey Barber of the GB gave a talk called "The 1900 Year Old FDS". I looked forward to this talk with keen anticipation, as I imagined that it would clear up my apprehensions about the distinction between the GB (which is the de facto FDS) and the claimed FDS (all the anointed). Yet this talk left me grasping for air. Barber made the bold assertion that Jehovah has always had his true anointed worshippers since the 1st century in an unbroken line (hence the 1900 yr old slave), yet when Russell arrived on the religious scene, we had already learned that he had made an independent study of the Bible. This made no sense to me. Why would the GB assert that the FDS was running the organization when that was not true in reality? My doubts were growing, yet I resolved to continue waiting on Jehovah. Another key teaching that caused me to feel doubt occurred when we were studying the Greek scriptures. As we covered the book of John Ch 10, we read the whole chapter in context. As we reviewed the interpretation that the WT had taught since the 1960s, I compared it to the whole chapter, and it ceased to make sense to me. I checked out some other Bibles and their commentaries (in the Gilead library), and discovered that other religions claimed that the other sheep merely referred to the Gentile Christians. This made sense to me in the context that Jesus was speaking: to Jews in the 1st century, who, if they became followers of Jesus, would eventually have to accept Gentile Christians (other sheep) into their fold. The phrase "other sheep" comes without much clarification, so it seemed that the Society had read too much into this scripture to advance their 2 class theology (a heavenly and an earthly class, hence, the "other [non-heavenly] sheep"). The Society wrote a QFR about this subject which I reviewed in Gilead, yet their arguments seemed unconvincing. When Gerrit Loesch came to give a lecture, he mentioned that there were some doctrines that he considered to be wrong in the publications, yet it was not the time to change them yet. At first, this statement was reassuring. Perhaps some of my misgivings were valid - all I needed to do was wait on Jehovah, and he would make sure that the light would get brighter. So again, I tucked my increasing doubts into the back of my mind, concluded my Gilead studies, and proceeded to joyfully go to my missionary assignment in Honduras. We were assigned to a large congregation (120 pubs) in a semi-rural area. The religious climate in Honduras was unlike what I was used to in Ecuador, which was mainly Catholic, and the people did not know Their Bibles well. In Honduras, I was surprised to see the name Jehovah plastered on Billboards everywhere, and most of the people were evangelical Christians who were constantly reading the Bible. The evangelicals could be seen reading the Bible on their patios, in their houses, at their shops, as we would go preaching to them, in stark contrast to the Jehovah's Witnesses who could be seen reading the WT, Awake, latest book study publication, or yearbook, but rarely the Bible. Conversations with these people frequently led to Bible ping pong, and most of the friends in the congregation felt that it was useless to spend time discussing the Bible with these people as the conversations went nowhere. For every proof text that a JW had, the evangelicals had an equally powerful text that proved the opposite. It seemed the height of irony to me that the people who knew the Bible so well would be viewed by Jehovah’s Witnesses as useless, and as Jehovah’s Witnesses we preferred to witness to people who were ignorant about the Bible. This seemed contrary to reason. If Jehovah’s Witnesses based their entire belief system on the Bible, and nothing else, then wouldn't it be easier to preach to those who had an intimate knowledge of the Bible? Would they be more attracted to the "truth"? Unless, the thought came to me again, that perhaps we didn't have the truth after all. This hit me hard again one day as I was conducting a Bible Study with someone in the Require brochure. We were on lesson 6, discussing God's hope for the earth. As we read the paragraph on the paradise earth, I realized that there was no specific scriptural backing for the concept. I also realized that I was merely parroting off what was in the paragraph, although I was doubting it myself ("paradise earth" does not appear in the Bible at all). Shortly thereafter, we returned to the USA. I no longer felt comfortable as a missionary, so I resigned my position and moved to New York. Yet I still believed that Jehovah’s Witnesses had the truth, mostly because of the love that they showed and their worldwide unity. While I recognized that some of the doctrine was wrong, I figured that Jehovah would clear it up in due time, as the WT and specifically Gerrit Loesch had indicated. One day, around the time I turned 35, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I realized that I might die in this system of things. I had always believed that I would never die, since the society had made bold claims as I was growing up: "Millions now living will never die!" Never mind that they made the same promise in the 1920s, and just about everyone who believed it is now dead, but I was taught that the time was right in the 80s, since the 1914 generation was dying out. Well, that teaching went the way of the dodo in 1995, yet I still believed that I would be part of the great crowd that would survive Armageddon and would never die. All that changed when I began to face my own mortality. I began having nightmares every night, dreaming that I was going to die, and feeling that I would never wake up. After several months of this, I realized that I had little faith in the resurrection. I began grieving my own death, knowing that when I would die, it would be the end of it all. How sad! I had believed all my life that it would never end, yet now I felt as if it were so short! After several months of emotional turmoil, I finally told my wife that I was doubting the resurrection. She became upset, and told me that I was going apostate. She called one of her friends from Bethel who worked at Gilead, and reported to him what I had said. She insisted that I call him. What he told me shocked me. He said that when he was in his 30s, he had his own doubts about Jehovah’s Witnesses and was seriously questioning his faith. But he came to grips with his doubts, and decided that it was the truth after all, and left his doubts in Jehovah's hands and encouraged me to do the same. I thanked him for his frankness, yet my doubts were now becoming stronger and stronger, and could no longer be relegated to the some confine of my brain and silenced. Around this time I was facing some challenges in my job due to my lack of education. My employer wished to give me more responsibility and a promotion, but without a college degree they could not promote me. They opted to just increase my responsibilities with a very modest increase in pay, without giving me a promotion. So I was now doing much more work, yet at essentially the same pay level and title as before. Recognizing my conundrum, my boss offered to help me get tuition assistance if I wanted to go to college and get my Bachelors degree. I readily accepted! I decided to do an accelerated course online, especially in view of the Society's criticism of college that take lengthy periods of time. My wife objected to my studying at college, but since she had no biblical grounds to oppose me, she relented and stopped her opposition. I chose my courses carefully to avoid any that would conflict with my belief system. While a philosophy course was mandatory, I chose one that focused on Computer ethics, although we still had to review great thinkers such as Immanuel Kant and ethical systems such as ism. While I felt that the bible was sufficient as a moral guide for me, in this class we had to incorporate about 8 different ethical systems and apply those principles to ethical questions related to computers. I was forced to contemplate non-biblical ways of ethical thinking, which helped to open my mind. In my final semester of undergraduate studies, there was an atheist who was in four of my classes. In two of my classes there was also a JW sister. The atheist classmate would be vocal about his ideas on occasion, and sometimes I or the sister would defend our beliefs, generally using the Bible. She sent me an email describing the atheist classmate as a "poor misguided soul". Yet while I was defending my views along with her, I failed to see him as misguided. He seemed to be happy in his disbelief, and continued to post ideas that made me think. At this time it was March of 2008. I was missing many meetings since my heart wasn't in it due to the increasing tide of doubts that would not be silenced. I had not been out in service in a few months either (which was a first for me, as I was always a 30, 40, or 50 hour publisher). I even began to describe the Jehovah’s Witnesses in the 3rd person when talking with my wife ("You Jehovah’s Witnesses, not including myself). One day my wife came home and told me that Bro Loesch was giving a talk in a neighboring hall, and she wanted me to go. I accepted, and listened to the talk "Are you Marked for Survival?", which coincidentally, I used to give so I knew the outline well. One section in that talk describes the prophecies that Jehovah’s Witnesses expect to be fulfilled soon. As Loesch began to describe the attack of the UN on Babylon the Great, the attack of Gog and Magog, the cry of "peace and security", etc., I realized that I didn't believe in any of that anymore... it was no longer believable. I realized that I was taking huge steps in my life if I no longer trusted the GB. The following week was the 2008 memorial. For the first time in my life, I saw the memorial as a mindless ritual, always the same outline (I had delivered the memorial talk about 4 or 5 times), always the same message: "don't partake of the emblems, only the anointed can, and they are not here". It made no sense to me anymore. The next week I found myself at that fateful assembly day, when I realized that I no longer considered myself one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. I would no longer go to meetings or go out in mindless service. Within hours, I was on the internet, seeking out like minded people, wondering if anyone else felt like I did. To my amazement I was not alone. Thousands of people have been disenfranchised and scarred by their experience as Jehovah’s Witnesses, who are not the most loving people on the earth, especially if you dare to disagree with them. If any doubting JW is reading this story, take heart. There are thousands, yes millions of people outside the JW organization, who will respect you and love you, not because you robotically share the same enforced beliefs, but because of a shared sense of humanity. While I spent my first 37 years of life as a JW I am not bitter. I am resolved to spend the rest of my life in ways that help my fellowman, not by insisting that people adopt my beliefs, but by genuinely caring for others, and doing what I can to help people.
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![]() written by Derek , June 10, 2009 All the subjects in your videos and in the text you have written have hit me like a breath of fresh air. I was recently disfellowshipped. I was raised a JW and never had the opportunity to make my own decision. Due to family and congregational pressure I was baptized at the age of 11. When I was 15 I started working for a dentist on his farm. I always enjoyed education and he encouraged me to further my education. This was hard due to the position that the society takes on higher education. My father did not take kindly to my decision. My father was an elder and very controlling. My mother was raised Catholic but started to study with Jehovah's Witnesses before her and my father were married. She is very passive due to her Hispanic heritage. My brother served at Wallkill for 3 years and he had his doubts. He formed a drinking problem while at the "farm". Both my mother and sister are pioneer's. I have long wondered why I think the way I do or how I formed the opinions that I have. I question my existence and the true meaning of life. I feel lost. I know I do not believe the teachings of JW's. All my friends now are "wordly". I can't reallytalk to them about how I feel. My family has abbandoned me. They refuse to accept who I am. I guess I am looking for like souls. I don't want to feel alone. I am 23 years old. My immediate family is all that I had. I see the organization through clear eyes. I appreciste your honesty and the way you present the facts. You are confident in your feelings and you have my respect. report abuse
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written by jonathan , June 15, 2009 Can I translate your sharing message into Chinese? Can I post it on my blog? Jonathan http://16millonjw.mysinablog.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=1768891 report abuse
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written by Davide , June 19, 2009 You're now atheist? How do you conciliate atheism with the non ignorable presence of superhuman existence, today, around us? report abuse
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written by Paul G. , June 28, 2009 I've watched some of your video commentaries on YouTube, but this is the first time I've read about your experience. I am amazed how few Witnesses are willing to actually reason on matters. I was active, but depressed, so I started reading the Bible. Specifically, I started reading the gospels. To my astonishment, I found a lot of the supposed false teachings of Christendom to be right there in the scriptures. I found no evidence of a paradise earth. Jesus warned of those who were saying that the end was approaching. It goes on and on. Your experience at the assembly was similar to my own. It was the first real moment of doubt. I was being told that the F&DS was right because, well, they were right. No criticism was allowed. At the convention I was told that the three festivals that the Jews celebrated forshadowed the three assemblies that Witnesses held each year. Really? All of those special festivals were just a prophecy pointing to hotel stays, bad parking, and bagged lunches? Around the same time, we were studying the Revelation book. I was finding it less and less probable that the writer had the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society in mind when he wrote the revelation. College was a big step for me. I was already on my way out, so I have no issues studying philosphy or political science. However, I could see why the WT is back to having a negative view of college. It makes you think. In college, you are welcome to have whatever opinion you want. However, you have to be able to provide a basis for that position. Anyways, I enjoyed reading your experience. I do find it interesting that many leave because they start taking a more honest view of the Bible (whether they end up believing it or not). report abuse
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written by Rebekah Phayre , July 05, 2009 What happened in your marriage once you left? Did she come to the same understanding as you? report abuse
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written by Jesus Morales , September 12, 2009 Ha, I was DF 14 years ago and didnt get to this conclussion until today, after watching your videos and your kindly thoughts. Too bad you didnt leave the JW 14y ago :-) Now I have a lot of work to do. The WWW turned to be a blessing uh? I wonder if there is a parallel for it in the scriptures that the GB will share soon (yey I am starting to recover, cuz I have been crying everyday) I wonder If the blue pill would have tasted better? oh well, many thanks, many thanks, and for those of you who think that this ex-missionary is the antichrist...(wait maybe that is not an insult) Although I still want to believe it is. report abuse
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written by KM , September 16, 2009 I have emotionally left the organization, but can never leave in reality. I have an 80 year old mother who is a pioneer whom I adore. I don't care what I have to do to make her happy until my dieing breath. However that does not mean that I live in private as a witness. What I do in my private life is none of their business. The tearing apart of families with no regard to the ethics of the situation or remorse was what got to me. My family was not torn apart or harmed to any great degree. But I saw little ones have their childhood taken away, not by the lack of christmas but by the surpressing of their imaginations. And if they were female as I was, they had no real contribution until adulthood, and then only what was allowed them by parents or husbands. There was no summer camp, no best friend sleepovers, no little league, and no promise of a future. There was no reason to learn. There was no young romance. There was only service and meetings. But all that being said, since I am trapped in the situation, I decided to make the best of it. I transfered my cards from congregation to congregation until they were irretreavably lost. This freed me from "service" or the ministry school. Yet I continued to attend my local congregation. I "attend the Thursday night meeting by hooking up on the phone since I can't see at night to drive, and put the phone in a drawer and continue on as though the meeting were not going on. This has one drawback however, I never know when the CO is coming. On Sunday I listen to the Public Talk and try to glean from it any practical information that I can gather that is relevant to my life. The same is true of the WT study. Then, since I am not a pub in that cong, I go home, no need to meet for service. The morals and ethics that the Bible teaches I still live by and won't be detered from. I guess that's why I have flown under the radar for the last 20 years or so. After all, the Bible is clear on those points. There are many doctrinal points in which I differ from the society on, but life forever on earth and the trinity are not two of them. I guess when I get to the end of my life, I'll find out. But mostly I find it hard to believe that a God of love would purposfully deceive over 2/3 of the world to believe in a non-christian belief, and then distroy them for doing so, children babies and all. I lastly want to say that being a JW has given me a lot of joy in my life in exchange for the hardship. I have had and do have some truly wonderful friends. A few of these feel as I do, and sometimes we talk about it. But it isn't really productive, so this happens rarely. To all those trapped as I am, the peace of God be with you. report abuse
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written by Tim Cederburg , October 08, 2009 It is funny...I think we are probably very close in age (based on your statements)...I too was raised in the JW faith. Under different circumstances, I think our paths would have been very similar as well. However, at the age of 17, I felt it necessary to "sow my wild oats". This is a long story...too long to go into detail here; however, I became very embittered when the JWs DF'd me. What I really wanted was a LITTLE freedom and to this day, I disagree with the Elders decision to disfellowship me with such swiftness. All of that being said, 20 years later, I still hold true many of the JW teachings & ideologies. In fact, as evidenced by my visit to your site, I have been re-investigating my faith. Twenty years ago, we didn't have the web and I am giddy with all of the information at my fingertips. Of course, some of it is pretty strange and still others even stranger. The first thing I'd like to say to you (at the risk of ignoring the tree in my own eye and the splinter in yours)...is you are wrong. Let me share something with you...I was baptized at a local Circuit Assembly when I was 14 years old. Although I let myself be led astray, I look back and realize that the most peaceful and harmonious time in my life was then. From the age of about 10 until my about my 17th birthday, I too (like you) immersed myself in the faith. Back to my baptism...I believe that I received the Holy Spirit at my baptism. I remember standing there in line...nervous as I got closer and closer to my turn. But never was I tentative or doubtful about my choice. When I entered the water, my anxiety was heightened...this was it...I was dedicating my life to Jehovah...this was the moment of truth. Now I am not sure what you experienced in your baptism, but mine is an experience that I will never forget. The Brother that baptized me, took me around the waist and made sure I was ready...in those brief moments that I was immersed, what little sin I had committed in my life to that point, I saw again and could see leaving me. As I emerged from the water, I felt something like I had never felt, EVER before. The only way I could describe it is the Holy Spirit. The only thing I can equate it to now (but couldn't then, because I hadn't tried drugs yet)...was being high...except without any of the negative feelings & ill-health that comes with abusing drugs. Now, I had not expected anything like this, so I dismiss any idea that my head played tricks on me and I imagined something. I was truly blessed by Jehovah that day and it still stands out as the most peaceful, inciteful, glorious day of my life. I will never forget it. Did you experience something like this at your baptism? As I mentioned, I was led astray...or rather, I led myself astray. In the last 20 years of my life, there has been much trial and tribulation...strife, anxiety, etc. Some trials more difficult than others. There are two incidents in my most recent years that warrant your consideration. About 5 years ago, my first wife was very sick from an undiagnosed condition caused by an auto accident many years earlier. Her condition was compounded by alcoholism. She was in the hospital nearly dead. For the first time in many years, I sought out Jehovah and prayed fervently one evening after retiring to bed. I got almost no sleep as I prayed over and over again to Jehovah for help and guidance (as my wife lay in the hospital). After only about 2 hours of sleep, my doorbell rang. I was very annoyed, but after two more rings, I decided to get up and answer the door. It was the Witnesses sharing the current WatchTower and Awake magazines...both of which contanined articles about death, the hope for Paradise Earth, etc. I could easily dismiss this as a coincidence...and eventually I conveniently forgot about Jehovah's intervention that I so fervently prayed for. Now fast forward to March of this year (2009). My first wife and I divorced for many reasons, most of which was adultery on her part & our inability to live in any peace. My second wife became pregnant in late 2008. In February of this year, we were told that there was no chance that our baby would live outside the womb (another long story). We got second opinions and tests, etc...but when it became clear that hope was lost for the baby, we decided to terminate the pregnancy (my wife is an inactive LDS member, but we sought out spiritual advice from her Bishop to make sure that we would be free of sin in aborting a "defunct" fetus). An abortion takes 3 days/visits to complete. On the first day, our eyes were opened to the entire process (it is very gruesome). We left the clinic on that first day, knowing we would come back the next and the fetus would be injected with poison to kill it (and the 3rd day is the good ole' hacksaw & vacuum cleaner procedure). But after that first day...that night, again I found myself in moral/spritual despair. report abuse
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written by Tim Cederburg , October 08, 2009 (continued) Again I prayed nearly all night long for guidance. The next day...ding-dong. The freaking JWs are at my door again. As I mentioned, I had "conveniently" forgot about this very same thing happening to me back in 2004...until this moment. On this occasion, the JWs handed me a WatchTower that emphasized the World and its despair today...and to leave things in Jehovah's hands. I wept at the door (confusing the Brother & Sister visiting me). I gave them some clues to my sorrow and that I was DF'd many years ago. They offered the materials to me and later the Brother came back to give me the phone number of one of the local Elders (so that I might study again). Clearly, I cannot dismiss these things as coincidence (lest I be a complete fool). We never completed the abortion process and my wife went nearly full-term. Our baby was born without functioning Kidneys (which also means underdeveloped lungs) and expired after about an hour. We got an hour with her...we still cherish that brief time. What has transpired since is my realization that the WTS & JWs are walking the right path. No organization is perfect and if the current WTS & JWs are claiming to be...they are wrong. I sympathize with your plight, but you should be able to see that your relationship with Jehovah thru Jesus Christ should be a personal thing. The WTS & the Kingdom Hall, etc. are a manifestation of Jehovah's Kingdom.......but in an imperfect, man-made organization. The true glory and perfectness of Jehovah's Kingdom cannot exist today....because of Adam's sin and the imperfection of men running the WTS. With all of that said...one cannot deny that the truly faithful JWs of today are of the few that are truly following the laws & prophecies of the Bible as closely as they can be followed (in the plight of imperfection). I believe that there are faithful followers of other religions that will receive everlasting life; however, the JWs have laid out the path clearly and even if their GB get some things wrong...the core of the belief system is as close as you can get to Jehovah. This is why I think you became an Atheist. Your doubts about the GB, WTS...what other choice did you have but to completely abandon your faith? You believed your whole life that it was "The Truth". What you fail to realize is that in an imperfect World, their can be no perfect truth. Bible scholars have debated prophecies and biblical content to a verbosity of astronomical proportions. While the Bible tells us to test all things, you must also be able to see the simplicity of its message. As I mentioned earlier, my current wife is an inactive LDS member. Recently, I had considered joining which led me to a great deal of investigations into the LDS origins (suffice to say, I WILL NOT BECOME A MORMON). My research has also led me to investigate the WTS & the BSM (the original followers of Charles T. Russell). Based on all my research, even being an imperfect organization, the WTS and JWs are the most Christ-like that I can find. But, of course, this requires a faith that a Creator & a Savior exist. I hope you re-acquire that faith my friend. Despite your experiences with the WTS, GB, Bethel/Gilead, etc....Jehovah does exist my friend, and Jesus Christ was crucified for you (and all mankind). Your heart has been hardened my friend...after 20 years, I feel my heart softening again and I have started to let Jehovah back into my life...I hope you do to. Your fellow wilderness traveler (come back this way my friend...back towards the light) report abuse
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written by Tim Cederburg , October 08, 2009 ExGileadMissionary (and others posted here), My previous two posts came a few days after reading your story (and accompanying posts). I just read it again (and the posts). I just want to reiterate...at my baptizm, there is no doubt that I received the Holy Spirit. I am not crazy...I've never been institutionalized...I was not brainwashed. I say these things because I think many people want some tangible, scientific answer to life's questions. For some there are none. How do you explain the fact that the Witnesses showed up to my door on the two occasions in my life when I needed Jehovah's guidance the most? I can offer no other explanation...once could be considered coincidence...twice...no way. In the last 5 years I have prayed frequently...on the two occasions that I was desperate and needed His guidance the most...ding-dong. Why not the Mormons? Other religious sects have begun door to door activites too. Why not them? Why didn't an Atheist show up in my life somehow to convince me that the Bible was a falicy? No, Jehovah sent his Witnesses to my home. Let me say again, which I didn't place much emphasis on earlier...I don't think that the WTS/JWs have it ALL right. But I would defend them. How can any organization exist, if they allow their members to loudly proclaim criticism? Anarchy would ensue and the very foundation of an organization would crumble. As I mentioned before, any man-made organization of today is run by men...imperfect men. Even those claiming to be of the "Annointed Class" are not free from sin and imperfection...only your savior Jesus Christ can make those claims. Certainly you can see why the WTS would choose to cut-off a hand to save the entire body. What about the WTS prophecies & interpretations of the Bible? Did they come from the FDS (or the GB)? I don't really know...but I do know that Jehovah has sent the Witnesses to me during my deepest despair. So they must be doing something right...something right enough that Jehovah chose to use them as an instrument to soften my heart. I give (and reiterate) my testimony. In the interest of science and intellectualism...let us consider something. The Bible has been proven to be an accurate document (based on loads of documentation to back it up). Now how could my baptizm experience be explained? Perhaps someone might say that my own adrenaline contributed to the feeling I experienced after emerging from the water. But the intense feeling of the Holy Spirit that I felt lasted several days. Furthermore, until the time I chose to abandon my faith, I always felt something was guiding my path. How about the two visits I received from the Witnesses after two night of fervent prayer (5 years apart)? I cannot think of anything that might explain this. Coincidence is not a viable option for me. If the Witnesses had visited me at ANY OTHER TIME in the 20 years since my DF'ing, I might conclude that, "Oh, it was just the 5th and 6th time the Witnesses had visited me since my DF'ing"...but that is not the case. These are the ONLY two times I have EVER been visited by the Witnesses since 1989. Do you have some theory? Occam's Razor - When you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better. I know this doesn't exactly fit the mold here, but Occam's Razor leads me to see that the simplest solution is that I was endowed with the Holy Sprit (at my baptizm), and that Jehovah did use his Holy Spirit to direct the Witnesses to my door on those two occasions. Simple. report abuse
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written by Michelle Leeds , November 25, 2009 I am praying that your website and YOU TUBE videos will reach many UNHAPPY Jehovah's Witnesses. Jesus said, "My yoke is kindly and my load is light" that is not the case with followers of the Watchtower Bible and Track Society aka : Jehovah's Witnesses. If anyone reading this lives in Florida and they want to meet some HAPPY former Jehovah's Witnesses AND HAPPY former LDS - Mormons, we are having our FIRST conference in 2010 at the FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH in Claremont Florida on April 16-18th. Go to www.makesureministries.com for future details of this event and leave your information. report abuse
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written by Who is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? , December 17, 2009 So Tim you imply that Jehovah guided the 2 Witnesses to your door to let you keep the baby only to be born and suffer for 1 hour... What kind of cruel God, the Watchtower garbage has made you to believe in? Open your eyes brother: Satan is transformed into an angel of light. I am convinced that it was him that sent the 2 Witnesses. You sinned against Jehovah by keeping that pregnancy. Pray that he will forgive you and guide you to the real truth, not the twisted ideas of the "Watchtower FDS/GB". Alas, how much reproach they have brought upon the name of Jehovah. "I have started to let Jehovah back into my life..." That is encouraging. But be careful if you plan to attend meetings again. Do what Jehovah demands from you and not what man demands from you. In other words do not let yourself be manipulated and used by others. I am praying for you. report abuse
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written by End Of Mysteries , January 21, 2010 I began the same path as you, at a young age seeing how the Revelation prophecies explained in the relevelation book were false. That there was no way an entire page of the bible and very detailed prophecy was fulfilled by a talk or watchtower which would even be considered old light and no longer accurate. To make a very long story short, I think you were getting spirit and having your eyes opened, and instead of realizing and getting to the scriptures that God would TEACH you, and give you understanding of the scriptures, you may have just been too confused and if not the answers from a man organization, that they dont' exist. EVERYTHING happening right now, is all prophesied in the bible, Revelation is a tiny piece of the prophesies. Read the book of Isaiah, Ezekiel, Joel, Jeremiah, etc, for a start, and you'll see how a lot of them go right into the last days through Armageddon. Feel free to email me if you want to discuss anything. report abuse
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written by Ex JW relieved , February 08, 2010 Amazing stories!.. I was disfellowshipped 13 years ago, after I wrote a disassociation letter. No sin commited to confess. The elder told me I was going to be seen by Jehova with better eyes if I was disfellowshipped than dissasociated. It didn't make any sense to me, but I said: "OK, go ahead and announce me as disfellowshipped". I could care less at that moment. Just wanted to live my youth years with no pressures. Anyway, I had fear to God, and was always scared to read bad things in the internet about the WT. Still thinking, as a stupid, that it was the hand of Satan if I fall into an apostate website. 13 years later I feel finally relieved, after the sea of videos and blogs with stories like mine. After really reading the bible without the WT lens. What happened to your wife?... Did she followed you? report abuse
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written by Lisa , February 12, 2010 Excellent presentation and your videos were right on, yet done in taste. I really do know what you are talking about....I am an ex JW, AND I too, am focused on LOVE and humanity. I think the JW organization has missed the boat, in that regard..and yes, they are loving, until you disagree...then you are spiritually dead...or if you are in the "world", bad association...I pray my family will open their eyes...they are so blinded to the organization that they lay all of their faith in... report abuse
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written by Denise Click , February 26, 2010 The Spring conference in april will no longer be at the clermont Church, Todd is looking for another location . He has had several offers and will be making a decision shortly. please spread the word , the website will have the new location posting as soon as the final location is confirmed.www.makesureministries.com we are still joyful and blessed so lets not let this minor inconveince slow us down. report abuse
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