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When Does A Young Jehovah's Witness Find Time To Think?
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Written by Tim Kilgore   
Tuesday, 12 May 2009 10:21
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Low and behold I have another question for Jehovah's Witnesses.  I didn’t post this on my Youtube site because quite frankly I look like a zombie after 9 pm which would be the only time I would have to record the video.  I digress; this may be a bit of an offshoot of my Tough Question number 15 regarding age of baptismal candidates.

The history of this question comes from a conversation at work where we were collectively complaining about childhood.  Specifically the schedule we kept in and around High School. When I went through my schedule the more I got through the days the more shocked people were that I could complete anything.  I really didn't think about it until that conversation that I indeed on a good day had about 1 hour to myself.


Days would begin with being up at 6 to get ready for school and out the door for 6:30.


School was from 7 - 1:30; 


I usually got home around 2:00 which was my one hour to myself till 3:00 where I went to work.  


Now I was lucky in that my work was next door and I only worked 2 hours per day.  


I would get home around 5, to which I would usually help with or cook dinner, eat dinner and do the dishes.  


Now that would usually be done around 6:30, which if this were a meeting night we'd already be getting ready while eating or doing the dishes in order to leave for the meeting at 6:30.  


If this wasn't a meeting night the Study began at 7:00 and was usually done at 8:30 (Monday was book study, Wednesday was Bible Reading along with personal study, and Friday was the Watchtower).  


If this was a book study night I was lucky because that would mean we'd get to the book study around 6:45, the study itself would go to around 8:15 (damn long prayers) then we would usually stay an hour or so afterwards to talk to everyone.  My mother was a social butterfly.  


If this were the Service meeting we'd get there around 6:45 and the meeting lasted till 9:30 usually and sometimes till 9:45.  Now I didn't have a shower growing up, I only had a bath, which takes about an hour to fill the tub, take a bath and drain the tub.  


So if this weren't a meeting night I'd be able to take a bath and have my day officially finished at 9:30 or so.  If this were a meeting night I wouldn't be done with everything till at the least 10:30.  To which since I needed to be up by 6 the next morning was basically right to bed to catch some sleep.  


Weekends weren't as bad, I grew up in a divided household my father was not a JW.  So I would visit him on Saturdays.  Though the usual schedule for Saturday was get up at 6:00 to get ready for street witnessing in Providence for 7:00.  


We would do this till 9 and head back home for my father to pick me up at 10:00; I would stay there till 7.  


I would get home; take a bath and I believe I would usually have an hour to chill unless my mother had invited some of the friends over.  In which case then my night was taken up with playing some trivial game like taboo or something.  On the bright side I would get dessert if that happened.  


Sunday was up bright and early, usually in the week we just read the daily text while eating breakfast, but Sunday...oh Sunday we got to look up all the scriptures and actually discuss the daily text.  That would usually be from around 7-8ish. 


From there it was get ready for the Sunday meeting which we had to leave the house before 8:30 because it was Sunday we needed to be sure we'd be able to get good seats.  Sunday meeting lasted from 9-11:30.  From 11:30-12:30 was the normal talking but usually I was in the car trying to eat my lunch in peace.  At 1 pm is where we met for Service after the meeting, I had to be in the hall a half hour early for that though.  They would have the service meeting which was usually around an hour, which would get us actually at the first door around 2:30; from there it was three hours doing door to door work which brought the last door done at 5:30.  


This would bring us back to the hall usually for 6; and home for 6:30.  On to Dinner which left one hour to watch TV for the entire process to begin again.


I think my schedule was pretty indicative of any Witness in High School, in fact mine might have been more lax than others because I didn't work very far away nor very long hours.  Now think up your own schedule or if you can't use mine as a guideline while I ask this next question.


The average age for children who were raised as Jehovah's Witnesses to get baptized is 15. Jehovah's Witnesses say that in order for them to get baptized they must decide for themselves that they want to get baptized.  


It's said that they would decide whether what they have is truth or not, whether they would like to dedicate themselves to the organization or not. 


My question is simply: how?  


Think of that schedule above, in what exact time would I have had time to contemplate the finer points of my religion?  


In what time would I have had to research things I was taught, or research the teachings of other religions?  


I suppose the same could be said of someone who works 8 hours per day and has the same meeting/study schedule that I did.  


So if you got baptized anywhere from 11 - 18 I ask when exactly did you have the time to decide for yourself that you would like to get baptized, how much time did you spend asking yourself if it was truth or not, or if you wanted to dedicate yourself to the organization or not?



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written by Bobby , July 25, 2009

It's about making sacrifices. You normally got what, 7 1/2 to 9 hrs of sleep per night based on the times you say you got up and the times you went to bed? Not bad at all if you ask me especially for a young person. Now, look at things from an adult with children and a full time 40+ hrs a week's point view. Some get up most get up around 5 or 6 am to get ready for work, get the children up for the daily text and breakfast.Go to work for their eight or more hrs. Come home and on meeting nights rush to get the children and themselves ready for the meeting. Get home from meetings and get children to bed for their eight hrs of sleep. Then if the father has a part in one of the meetings or is an elder in the congregation, he stays up and studies a bit longer. He may not get to bed til around 11;30 or 12. This is a very relaxed schedule compared to other parents. As a parent, we sacrifice alot of wants and sometimes needs to make sure our children's needs are met. I'm guessing that, by the omittion of having asked mom to have a little time for yourself, that you probably never asked. You could have sacrificed an hr or 2 for such research as you brought up. Did you? Probably not. Or for personal study. Did you? Probably not. Or for contemplating whether or not you want or are ready for baptism. Did you? By the questions you ask, I would say you didn't. But somehow through that "hectic" schedule of yours you found time for making "youtube videos". The question should have read more like this: What sacrifices can I make to worship MY God? To have time for MY personal studies? To find out for MYSELF what other religions teach? To contemplate whether I'M ready or if I want to be baptised? Even other religions would tell you that its about the sacrifices that YOU are willing to make.
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written by Mary Wright , August 23, 2009

Reading your schedule sounds very familiar to my old life. The required time spent on witness related activities ensures that you have no life outside of it.. no outside viewpoints.. no outside knowledge in any way.

I was raised in it and when I was 12 years old, I decided I wanted to get baptised. The JW lifestyle was the only one I knew, and I had accepted it as how things were. It seemed like the thing to do, all my friends around me were getting baptised, and I didn't want to be left out. However, my parents told me no.. that I was too young, and I had to be more involved in the religion. This was the smartest decision they ever made for me
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. Over the next four years I realised that the last thing I wanted to do was get baptised, and now.. I am free.

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written by Beaten , December 16, 2009

As a "unbelieving spouse", (I really hate that expression) I can tell you that the "Organization" intends to consume your every waking moment. For more years than I want to remember, there was almost never a time alloted for me to be just a good husband unless it involved the Witnesses. I guess they need to make sure that the only way you could ever "be" a really loving husband / person is to be a Witness.

We were both Protestant when we married but shortly after the birth of our second child (we had been married about 3 1/2 years at that time) a Witness started a study with my wife while I was working, trying to make a comfortable and stable home for us and our 2 babies. It was kept a secret from me for several months before I just happened to go past our home on the way to a job and noticed the strange car in our driveway. By then, it was too late. There was no way she would even listen to anything that could possibly be negative about the JW's.

Increasingly after that, she devoted more and more of her free time (our time?)to "study" and "service". It is now 27 years later and we are getting divorced. I can assure you that I NEVER, NEVER laid a hand on her but any negativity toward the Wittnesses was considered abuse; emotional abuse. I tried more than a few times going to meetings with her and honestly participated but I always had this gut feeling that something wasn't right. I would end up feeling that what I was doing was a lie to God and myself and would end up quitting.

Over the years we confronted the same daily problems that nearly all couples have and were able to get past them. BUT we had a additional struggle! We could not share our most important beliefs, and her belief and devotion to the "Organization" kept her away from me almost every evening and weekend.

Now, after 5 years of literally no intimacy between us I was beaten. I don't know if I was beaten by Satan or the "Organization" but I committed the worst sin anyone can imagine. Yes, another woman. After 2 times with her, I couldn't live with myself and told my wife about it. I still don't know really why I did it. I didn't even really like the other woman. Maybe I needed to give my wife just cause in God's eyes to do what her heart was wanting. A divorce. It had to be my wife who divorced me because I could never be the one to initiate the proceedings. The only way that could happen was if I commited adultry! I can assure you that what I did was not because of a lack of love. Even as this happens, she still has my heart; I felt it ripped from my chest that day, long ago, as I watched her drive down the street headed to the District Convention where she was "babtised".

Back to the TIME issue. I'm sorry if this comment got off track but I know this: The "Organization" intends to CONSUME people for it's own benefit and the simplest way to do that is to totally consume their time. ALL of it.

God, Jehova if you wish (I know several ways to write his name), does not CONSUME people so how can I ever believe the "Organization" is associated with him? Is it not Satan who consumes and destroys?

It's almost Christmas and my (soon to be ex) mother-in-law asked what I might want. I have lived most of my adult life without Christmas so I replied that I didn't really need anything at all. I lied. For Christmas I need forgivness for the pain I have caused to God and my wonderful bride. I will always love her and always hate, not the people, but the organization that consumes every ounce of their goodness for itself.

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