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The Introduction Of Phobias And Other Development Traits In The Jehovah's Witness Child
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Written by Randall Watters   
Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:08
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Parents obviously have a very powerful influence on their children. Even when they are abusive and insensitive towards their offspring, children still desire whatever vestige of love and approval they can get from their parents, and will often be obedient just to receive attention and care. Understanding this dynamic helps to explain how children growing up in the Watch Tower may be so heavily influenced by the need for approval that they are willing to give up whatever goals or aspirations they may have in order to please their parents, even long after they leave home and/or get married.


In order for the indoctrination to be lasting and effective, PHOBIAS (deep-rooted fears) must be introduced to the child in order to "scare" them away from a course contrary to Watch Tower idealology, and the organization is very adept at planting and nuturing these phobias. As in the case of the elder in Korea with the four children (mentioned previously in our first article), the fear may be the threat of being cut off financially as well as losing dad's approval, but it also comes directly from the pages of THE WATCHTOWER in the form of warnings about being in the very last days, and how Jehovah will not look with approval upon those who "squander their time and energies" in non-Kingdom interests. Jehovah thus becomes the all powerful parent who, even if the child's real parents may not be too concerned, will himself cut the child off from his favour and possibility even eternal life. A powerful motovation indeed!

 
 

A Phobic World View



The first step that the Watch Tower takes in their indoctrination of their followers is to develop the concept of the "universal war" that all people are inevitably caught up in, namely, that Satan has declared war on Jehovah, and we are automatically on one side or the other; there are no fence-sitters. If you are not doing all that the organization asks, you are on the side of the devil. Everything outside of the Watch Tower is controlled by the devil, and all persons who are not Witnesses are misled by the devil and are bad or dangerous to associate with. An unbalanced fear of the supernatural is encouraged. Witness children are told to avoid "worldly" magazines, movies, TV shows, music, etc. Any information critical of the Watch Tower is automatically evil and dangerous. Most doctors are evil for wanting to administer blood transfusions. Children have nightmares about mom or dad having to refuse a blood transfusion. Everything is made to appear as part of a large conspiracy to destroy Jehovah's Witnesses. Satan is feared totally out of proportion to the role as represented in the Bible.


What is the end result? The child learns to fear life itself, at least outside of the Watch Tower, so that if he/she were to ever leave the organization, the devil would destroy him/her and he/she would become miserable and suicidal. I personally knew several members of the Watch Tower's Bethel family at their headquarters in New York who knew the organization was wrong, but could not leave due to fear that they were incapable of getting a job, or that their lives would disintegrate. They were the victims of carefully planted PHOBIAS.


Many of these phobias are rather obvious to outsiders. Simple, harmless things are blown out of proportion in order to keep Witnesses secluded from the real world. For instance: Birthdays are evil because someone is being worshipped. Christmas is evil because thousands of years ago someone worshipped the sun on December 25th. Saluting the flag is worshipping your country and a sign that you belong to Satan's kingdom rather than God's Kingdom.


Saying "darn" or "geez" is the same as cursing.


Smoking cigarettes is a form of drug abuse that can lead to demonic control. Little wonder that Witness youths are so paranoid and shy of the world! Even when they leave the organization, the phobias are still there, controlling their lives until they are recognized and eliminated through counseling and/or self-awareness.


Many of our readers were raised Jehovah's Witnesses and still remain VICTIMS of multiple phobia implantations. Many struggle with low self-esteem and self-worth, since the Watch Tower implants and perpetuates such problems

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written by Facts not Blind Statements , October 08, 2009

Alot of the information that you posted in this blog is very biased. For I have been a witness since I was 8 yearsold and now I am 21 and still part of the organization. I think you need to take some time and do some research before making accusations like this about any Jehovah's Witness faith.

Now I am about to break down every single part of your post with facts not with blind statements that you expect everyone to believe. My facts will be from other sources and the bible and not from the Watchtower Society so as to ensure that I am not a biased or uneducated individual. And I also encourage you when I bring up scriptures look them up in your own bible.

"Saying "darn" or "geez" is the same as cursing."

Who told you that? That is entirely untrue and you know it, I might as well say the word "Ass" Is swearing even though the definition of it is referred to a donkey, and the bible has the Word "Ass" when referring to such a creature. The whole thing about cursing is doing it uneccesarly and throwing into every sentence that comes out of your mouth also swearing on "God" ((Which I refer to as Jehovah)) and "Jesus" is wrong.

Thats only the first Acussation and or statement that you are incorrect on or just plain ignorant about our religion and practices.

"Witness children are told to avoid "worldly" magazines, movies, TV shows, music, etc. Any information critical of the Watch Tower is automatically evil and dangerous. Most doctors are evil for wanting to administer blood transfusions."

What exactly are you trying to say to people here? That we do not approve of tv? Movies? Music? Magazines? As far as children go when it comes to these things especially while I was being raised as a witness that these things I had to be cautious while watching or listening too or reading "Violent, Sexually explicit" Things at such a young age because these things woudl affect a child drasticly while growing up.

Its not just the witnesses that are concerned for there children when it comes to such things.

Heres a link as to why

http://www.csun.edu/science/health/docs/tv&health.html

Now as for the statement about information critical towards Witness's, Well I am sorry but would you want anyone to attack your beliefs? I have been in the preaching work since I was 14 years of age and out of every individual I have talked to they have a respect for the way I go about talking to them. I do not attack nor say things about there religion nor they do mine and in fact we respect each other and continue to have peacefull conversations about the bible. But when the media or any other organization attacks Witness's as a whole there wrong, even as it would be if they attacked other religions openly without the facts.

And as for blood transfusions that comment you made really bothered me not just as a Witness but a individual person. I know for myself even if I was not part of the organization I would rather seek a alternative to having someone else's blood from God knows who being pumped into my body or even in fact getting the wrong blood type could potentially kill me.

Doctors even have stated that its by far a better way to save lives.

'Bloodless surgery is not only for Jehovah's Witnesses but for all patients. I think that every doctor should be engaged in it.'—Dr. Joachim Boldt, professor of anesthesiology, Ludwigshafen, Germany.

"While blood transfusions are safer today than in the past, they still pose risks, including immune reactions and contracting hepatitis or sexually transmitted diseases."—Dr. Terrence J. Sacchi, clinical assistant professor of medicine

"I don't see any conventional abdominal operation that in a normal patient routinely requires blood transfusion."—Dr. Johannes Scheele, professor of surgery, Jena, Germany.


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written by Facts not Blind Statements , October 08, 2009

Wow shocking the information is out there that there is alternatives oh and wait "Bloodless surgery is not only for Jehovah's Witnesses but for all patients" A doctor said that and he has the facts to back his statement up if you ever care to do research.

Now as for smoking do you know why we do not smoke? And by the way whoever said that it leads to demonic possesion is wrong. But as for principle that is in the bible it speaks about this in 2 Corinthians 7:1.

This scripture is stating that if were purposely damaging or afflicting our bodies with things that harm us that were really disrespecting the life that god gave us to live. And its not only this scripture that says "Smoking" is harmfull but also because you see it on the package of Cigs before you smoke it letting you know that it harms you. Therefore its not just a Jehovah's Witness belief that it is wrong but a choice for a individual who wants to live a life with better health and would in effect not chose to smoke at all to begin with.

As for the universal war that your speaking of that we believe in and "An unbalanced fear of the supernatural is encouraged" Comment that you made and I am sure someone told you this and you took it as fact.

This war broke out due to the fact Satan time and time again in the bible Challenged Gods Sovrienty and right to rule mankind and thought he could do it better himself. And God has allowed Satan to have that chance to prove to his miriads of angels that Satan is wrong and that he was foolish to believe that he could rule over mankind.

The universal war between God and Satan is very real in fact those who do not know it was prophesied in the bible around that time did say that things went from bad to worse. And during that time this happened was 1914 when the first world war occured, never had mankind thought such a tradgedy would happen but it did. Why is it so hard to believe that Satan is root cause of all the suffering and losses that mankind has suffered, you cant be blind to this fact. Its even states in Revelation which is generally referred to as the book of prophecy that this war did occur. Revelation 12:7-12, Describes the very war we believe had occured and it even mentions that the one called "The one called Devil and Satan" knows he has a short period of time to blind ones to the bigger picture when it comes to how mankind is involved.

He uses things such as getting in contact with the dead, supposed ghosts being seen or apirations to distract us from what we need to know. I did research on the Wigi Boards due to the idea that many people think its just fun and games and that there is no real danger to using such devices.


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written by Facts not Blind Statements , October 08, 2009

But there wrong you have to ask yourself this question "Why have several persons whose seemingly harmless experiences with automatic writing and the Ouija board resulted in such wild insanity that commitment to asylums was necessitated?" Because they in fact experianced the danger that was talked about in the bible Numerous times, Look up the word spiritism in your bible index of words and you will in your own bible be suprised.

These were stated in the bible to protect mankind from such harmful dangers, and I encourage you to do your own research on the Wigi board and what it has done to peoples lives and has allowed demons to attack those who allow themself to be succeptable to them. My extended family were affected by such a device and I know full well its not fun and games.

So this so called unbalanced veiw to the supernatural that your speaking about is highly inaccurate for Witnesses well know even those who are not that there is a real danger and that its not unknown.

If you wish to know more on this subject I would be more than obliged to give you facts not just from the bible but from other sources that support it.

And as for the flag and other things that were mentioned in that paragraph referring to those things we do not veiw the people who practice these things as evil, for I have family who are not of my faith and I show the greatest commandment that god gave us in the bible "Which is to love our fellow man as ourself" towards them. Do I hate what they are practicing? Yes I do. But do I hate them as people? No I do not and that is what sadly many people believe witnesses think because of slander and malicious lies.

Randall Watters The Watchtower Society does not encourage our young ones to have low self-esteem and self-worth,and in fact time and time again there are articles to help our youths on there way to Adult hood. I was introduced to the truth at the age of Eight and still going strong despite lifes hardships that everyone has to face because of the help they have given me through gods word to cope lifes problems so I could avoid such feelings that you just accused us of making our children feel that they cant make there own choices when it comes to life.

You and I have a choice we can either lie or tell the truth to people on this board. Not that I am calling you a liar but you are just not informed to the facts.

Do not ever question another idividuals faith or put us in a category for that goes against my rights and that of others. For you did not attack the Watch Tower Organization itself you attacked 7,124,443 in 236 lands peoples beliefs and said blatantly wrong ideas about them.

That was recorded for last year and I assure you there will be a far larger number recorded at the end of this year.

But as for me my name is not important but the fact I could bluntly give the facts and he could not shows something.

You have any questions about Witness's and there ways and beliefs just ask them the next time they come to your door. Or just get in contact with me at \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it and ask questions that may concern you about us.

As long as there sincere questions and from people not looking for an escuse to argue with me I will answer willingly. But like I said before I will answer you with outside sources and the bible before I bring out what our literture says so you know it does not just come from my religion.

Sorry this was long but it needed to be said because things like this being posted on the internet are very misleading to people who read it.

You have the facts and the internet at your disposal to know that I am right use it wisely.







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written by Scott Vantine , October 08, 2009

I was raised as a JW for my entire youth. I had a very loving and supportive family, however, the indoctination and social segregation left a permanent and not altogether positive impression. I left the orginization in 1985 at the age of 20, mostly because of the close minded and hypocrytical ideaology. I was immediately shunned by my former friends and family, no outpouring of "Christian love" here. I was always dismayed at the practice of JW's trying to preach their doctrine in the effort to "enlighten" others, while refusing to listen to the opinions or ideas of others. They were so insecure in their own beliefs that any outside ideology was "Satan's influence", and thus banished. "Bad association spoils useful habits" was the mantra for the youth. So I, as most, were kept apart from the "worldly association" of our childhood. We were segregated into groups of fellow witnesses, denied all but only necessary contact with the outside. It caused such a rift that my former best friend, my father would not speak to me for years. What kind of orginization sponsors the denial of beloved family members in favor of orginizational devotion? A cult. We were indoctrinated to fear the coming end of this current "system of things". And that only Jehova's faithful few would survive to inherit a paradise earth. Or if you were one of the chosen 144,000 to ascend to heaven to rule beside Christ. Everyone else would perish. In turn, our parents discouraged outside contact, even to the point of discouraging formal education. It was better to serve God in these "times of the end". Always pushed to minister and cling tightly to the orginization. Most of my generation avoided college, married young(so their fornication would be forgiven), and raised broods of drones. Some fell away as I, suffered through the shunning by loved ones, and went on to find their own way. I know personally, many of my cohorts fell from grace in spectacular fashion. Paranoia, feelings of loss of God and family, sponsored many psychological scars. Once you feel hopeless in the eyes of God, people tend to pull out all the stops. I know many who in their dismissal from grace, fell into sexual and chemical addictions. It seems as if an orgination supposedly founded upon the teachings of Christ would have a modicum of love and understanding. But no, only if you were willing to deny your individuality, prostrate yourself before the church, and sacrifice independent thought would you be allowed to return. So I gave up, moved on, and found my own idenity. I have spent time in recovery, lived through emotional persecution, and survived addiction. I have learned that growing up in a cult is a powerful influence that never completely leaves one's psyche.
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written by Facts Not Just Blind Statements. , October 08, 2009

Scott Vantine you can look up the defenition of the occult and know that your reference to the Jehovah's Witness faith as being one is wrong even according to the government that is a inaccurate statement.

Look up the word in your dictionary then you will understand where I am coming from.

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written by Getting a firm hold on the Real Life , November 23, 2009

Uh, excuse me... Scott didn't refer to the JW's as being part of the occult. He refered to them (I can still say "us" actually) as a cult, which we in fact are. So, Mr. Facts, why don't YOU look up the word in your dictionary and learn the difference between occult and cult and then read a whole book on what a cult is. If you are, in fact, as intelligent as you seem to think you are, you will no doubt see that he is correct in calling the J-dubs a cult. I speak from experience being baptized at 12, pioneering, serving as an MS and finally learning to think for myself at the age of 33. Learning to think for oneself and leaving the WT Society go hand in hand. Why do you think the WTS has always discouraged higher education? Because it teaches you critical thinking skills that eventually leads one to doubt their BS.
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written by Tony G. , December 23, 2009

hahaha. funny stuff. Are JWs really cult? enlighten me. If it was so, why would they mixed with ppl from all over the world by knocking on their doors? Cults are ppl who keep away from their community as far as i know. JWs are interested in ppl to live moral sound lives. Many who have higher education have become JWs. Ask a local JW in your area find out that information for you. Yet, didnt the bible state that Jehovah have hidden the truth from the "wise" and revealed them to "babes"? The only way they shun someone is if that person refuses to live morally clean. I here do stress moral cleaness. i have known of JWs who have been reproved. they are not shun. they simply do not participate in congregation activity until they are spiritually strong again. they get encouragement from elders as well as the rest of the flock. A person is disfellowshipped only if they refuse to adhere to the bibles moral standards. Isnt that what the Apostle Paul suggested? Didnt he state that one yeast rise the whole bread or one leaven ferment the the whole... so get the man out of the congregation? that is in all bible translations of the Christian Greek scriptures as far as i know. Listen, the organisation is growing and making changes...it did not start as a perfect organisation, it took time to do away with false religious ideas in its earlier begin as its spiritual leaders continued to search for truth that is seek and and ye shall find....smoking was once 'allowed' but now shunned especially after recognising through 'outside' education that it affects the human body....and the bible warns of using things that will negatively affect your body. You have to understand the organisation is run by imperfect men, so a local body of elders may make judgement based on what they see fit. sometimes new information on a matter may be given by the WTS that helps them to appreciate that the matter should have been handled properly. The point most of those early 80s early 90s issue are things of the past. Some of those men who were part of the decision making process are no longer JWs. the same ones who may have offended. But guess what, they might have gotten rid of you biasly and what Jehovah got rid of them through devine intervention. the sad thing is you allowed them to get u out the truth. Does not the bible say wait upon Jehovah and he will act? Only Jehovah sees what goes behind close door and he knows that its your 'consciences' that you are trying to ease through self-deception and faulty reasonings. so you season false information with facts to give them good taste. Those who maybe planning on leaving the truth: Remember the disciples who left Jesus after they could not understand what he was saying? Then Jesus asked one of his disciples if they are not going to leave as well. In response his disciple asked "where shall we go Lord? you have the sayings of everlasting life"...the light is getting brighter for jehovah's organisation. Be patient as Jehovah told Daniel "The understanding will not be revealed until the latter part of the days". Are we in the last days? Look what is happening at the global economy, look what wars that is being fought at a greater magnitude daily in many countries with so many others involved from other places....look at the amount of billions being budgetted for wars in order to gain world peace.....but as the bible stated "as soon as they say peace and securtiy, then instant distruction will be upon them. Jehovah's organisation is not perfect. The light is getting brighter in terms of understanding. But where else shall we go to? suggest an organisation that is better spiritually? Then you will realise the chaos thats happening in every part of christendom...the point is, we know there are corrupting influences in the Truth, the bible tells us about wolves, so it will be obvious, so why let that stumble you????????????????????? If the bible says so then it is expected...why behave as though its not suppose to be????????? That is even a more re-assurance why its the Truth....Dont u expect satan to be using the weak links to create more leaven to do more fermenting harm....and what did the apostle paul told us about handling 'leavens'. Are you becoming a leaven? Becareful you dont find yourself "actually fighting against God".
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written by Thank You! , December 30, 2009

Thank you to 'Facts not Blind Statements' for putting to rest these outrageous claims about Jehovah's Witnesses and our beliefs. I am 15 and have been one my entire life. My faith has helped me and many of my fellow christian youths earth wide to make good decisions concerning our health, education, choice of friends, entertainment, and many other aspects of our lives. It's also helped me to have more meaningful relationships within my family.
Every choice I make with my religon in mind BENIFITS ME, because each of them is made in line with God's viewpoint; which we discover through his word the bible. He is a loving father and wants what's best for us, so obeying him is always the right choice.
Witnesses aren't freaks! I'm just the sort of girl you could meet any day. But with Jehovah's influence on my life, I know I will continue to mature into a person who has both love for her faith and love for her fellow human beings, witness or otherwise!
And one who isn't scared to stand up for her beliefs.

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written by Laura Salimans , January 13, 2010

Keep up the good work !!

I was raised JW and have suffered from a fobiac view. It's good that you're agnoligizing it, because people like me truly suffer from it.
No disrespect to the watchtower, but I know the truth now, and I wanted to thank you for that..

I think it's a good thing that you put this in the public, becouse here in Holland it isn't such a big topic.
I've had counselling to get a normal life, with a job, without panick attacks and stuff,in group sessions.
And at that time I started to think, and found the root of my problems.
Here comes the (less)funny part:

the psychologists didn't believe me...
I'd even tried to show them this web-page, but the weren't interested.
So I had to stand up for myself in a way I had never known against people whome I thought could help me.
But they didn't.

So I think it is definitely worth it, to put a little attention to this condition of the mind.

so, good luck.
laura

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written by Marie , January 18, 2010

I was bought up from birth a J W it has had a hugh impact on my life as i feared armagedon to the extream was constantly told would die at amergeddon if i came out amongst other things. my whole life has been controled by this cult, i started to suffer with ocd and panic attacks , social phobia at the age of 16 iam now 37 and still suffer on a daily basis.This religion distroyed my life
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written by Mars , February 01, 2010

The bible teachings are not the problem. The way the WTO has manipulated the bible to support their beliefs is where the problem is. All JW must stop victimizing themselves by thinking that outsiders pick on them. The WTO worst enemy is not those who have left the organization and are labeled "apostates" but rather WT literature which they can not deny. The WTO repeated contradicts itself in literature hence it creates an unstable foundation of beliefs. This is why so many people are leaving. They say 'the light got brighter' but have you, JW's, asked yourself why Jehovah would mislead you to begin with? Isn't he God of Truth? Deceiving his people is not truthful. Doesn't the bible say that Satan is the god of the lie? I challenge you as a JW to read Matthew 24:45-51. The WTO separated this illustration Jesus gave about teaching between good and evil acts between slaves and separated the one illustration to claim they are the faithful and wise servant. The illustration is about a rebellious servant and a faithful servant and how each will get his own for his deeds. I challenge you to read this and take it even further by comparing your NWT bible to non-WTO bibles. If you do not fear truth you will do so but if you fear then you are only a prisoner to ignorance by choice and the WTO is making a joke of you especially after the WT study two weeks ago where they even wanted you to hand over your jewelry to them. At least other churches only ask for 10% of your earnings...what the bible recommends...not all your real estate, annuities which are guaranteed income, and your jewelries...what a joke....the WWWork is a general fund which they use for...anything! Blessed....
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written by Hjørdis H. Faaborg , February 18, 2010

Dear mr. Facts... I can read, that you are angry. And in defence. I feel sorry for you, because you have to defend your belifs so hard. A lot of questtons are on my mind. But I dont want them to be answered. You can use them ore not, thats up to your self. Here they are: why do you have to brake down every single part of the post and call it blind statements? can you know what the ground are for the article? Do you know, that the most of peoble who wright on Freeminds has a past with alle WTS teachings and know them from inside? if you feel you so attacked, why do you reed freeminds in the first place? Do you know that you are actually attacking other peobles beliefs as you feel yours been attacket? your oppinion are, that your religion are under attack, but what does the WT write about the catholic and protestantic church? do you know the facts outside what wt write? have your asked a beliver in these churches how they feel about what they are reading in wt? How can you know how your would feel about a bloodtransfusion if your have not been member of the wt organisation who condams it and disfellowships peoble who say yes to at bloodtransfusion? do you know how often "wrong bloodtypes is pumped into bodeys" and how many are killed each year because of that? who is that doctor that tells you "there is better ways to save peoble"? Are you talking about multi traumaticised peoble ore are you talking about simple operations(conventional)as dr. Scheele does? do you know how many is contaminatet with sexual deasises and hepatitis from blood each year? And how many multitraumatisised Jv is dying withaut blood each year? How do you think the bloodproducts Jv are allowed to take comes from if not from human blood? And do you know what the Moses saud abaut blood from a slandered animal adn what Jesus says about love and life? do you know, that Jesus offered his blood for you and says that any who not drink hes blood and eat his flesh havent the life in him? Do you know what Paul is talking about when he talkes about keeping our bodyes clean i 2.co.7:1? Did Paul know about smoking? do you know what Jesus said about adding to the Bibel ind Rev.? Do you know what Jesus said about supernatural things and the christians? did they have to fear ore should they put trust in Jesus? Coul Satan harm peoble who put trust in Jesus and only in Jesus, not in any of the human made religions? Where in the Bible is Jesus talking about wwI and 1914? have you seen that the aposles are asking to questions in Matt 24? and have you seen 1914 mentioned in rev.? how can it bee that you respect other peobles beliefs and hate there actions, when most are determined in beliefs? do you know the differences between good advices for the youth and self-esteem and selfwords feelings? do you know how self-esteem enderes up in your hart and mind? Do you know that these feelings can only grow in a chil who is seen as it is and how the childs feelings is, and not in what a religion teaches the parants is "good feelings" for the child to feel and act in the light of? do you know that you cant emcourage any to have at high self-esteem? Please dont tell others to find facts, when you dont do it yourself. How can you awoid your feelings throug religios help? And how do you know your are making your own choices when it comes to life, when you dont feel your own feelings but avoid them in soving problems on religios help? Dear friend there a lot of questions to ask and the answeres can only your self find. We are a lot of peoble who had and we know from inside, what WTS are standing for. most of our knowing and data is taking from wt litteratur and wee all lost families, loved ones. we payd a high price knowing what truth is and most of us know our Bibel, just as it was written. we know the art of respect for other peobles belifes, WTS teaches and practices. If attack is to read what WTS selv writes, then we are attacking. for me to see, its the wt attacking themselves with non truths. but thats not the question here. The question is if our mind is controlled ore free to think, belive and talk. Thats human rights. Do you know what human rights are? have you readed nr. 16, 18 and 19? if not read them and ask your self: is my religios organisation vaolating them ore not? they are not different from Jesus demand to love of your neighborous. thank you fore your time. I wish you well. yours friend from DK
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written by just bob here in the internet cloud , March 03, 2010

JW's ARE GREAT i know a lot of good ones how ever all religions good or bad have one thing in common (they control humans ) some have no belief they can be good or bad,some humans like to control humans,some are submissive,etc etc .I just happen to believe that is how GOD (nature et al) created humans.I don't need to be a rocket scientist or a bible thump er to figure it out but some humans need that JW push and that's great and if your belief in GOD makes you happy ..go for it! just don't be hypocritical ...GOD bless u
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written by just bob here in the internet cloud , March 03, 2010

I noticed some thing about the AMISH they make great furniture and have one day in their lives called RUMSPRINGA then then they have to make a choice .
yep they sure work hard great people.So the moral is don't get too freaked out by your religion. Believe it or not GOD wants you to be happy.

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